SOS Q&A: DARYL TURFORD

At the end of the 2006 season Daryl Turford said he had run in his last race, two weeks later he was making plans for 2007. Does he suffer from Mark Martin Syndrome? Well we sat down with the driver out of Mitchell, Ontario for an SOS Q&A. Find out why he is making a return to the drivers seat, why the switch to #29 and why he thinks today's racing is just as good as the past.
At the end of the year everything was for sale - 2 weeks later you're back in - What's up with that? 
I was living with friends when my dad and I decided to go racing 5 years ago. I moved back in with my parents and that's how I was able to afford to race. That was the only possible way that I could afford a sprint car. It was now getting to the point though that I was never going to be able to move out and move on with my life. Late in 2004 season I decided I had enough, I was spending too much and that we were going to quit racing at the end of the 2005 season and start helping other guys in the club.

I was actually quite content and very at peace with my decision. Dad on the other hand wasn't. He needs a race car to tinker on. We talked to a couple of teams to see if they'd leave their car at our place so dad would have something to play with but nothing really panned out. I was completely ready to go crew for the Middlemissesesesses and John Watson when my dad and I had a dinner and he told me that he wasn't ready to be done. We decided we would race the car this year, but if the car isn't self-sufficient we're done. If we hurt something we're not going to jump through hoops to be ready the next night. Basically, on nights when we can afford to race we'll race. Fortunately the SOS has the best purse structure in sprint car racing so as long as I don't run into things and the motor doesn't blow it should be another fun year.

Who is the most underrated driver in the SOS - you don't get to name yourself?
In my opinion there are 3 very underrated drivers in the SOS. John Watson, Tim Zack and Adam West.

I think John Watson is generally considered a good driver amongst the drivers of the SOS but because the fans don't really realize the kind of equipment he has he doesn't get the credit he deserves. John is a very good front runner, very rarely does he give up the lead when he gets it and he showed at South Buxton that he can pass people from deep in the field too when things are right. He also analyzes the crap out of everything including his driving and I think that helps.

Tim Zack is driving a car that raced in the very first SOS race and was even considered old then. He won the Patriot Sprint Group Rookie Of The Year title this year and in my opinion he really earned it.  The biggest thing about Tim is that he doesn't make mistakes. He puts his car in the right place to keep from being passed and also in the right place to take advantage of other people's mistakes. If he ever had good equipment I think a lot of people would be surprised by what he would be able to accomplish.

One driver who I think may STILL be underrated is Adam West. He doesn't put up big win numbers and he didn't chase points this year so he didn't get nearly the headlines some of our other top guys get but he's probably the toughest driver in our club night in night out. He's especially good in important shows as he proved last year at the SOS Invitational, the Full Throttle Nationals and the Canadian Sprint Car Championship (until he got taken out in his heat). When he's on there's no one in our club who's better and I'm not sure everyone realizes that yet.

If you ever do really quit racing - what part of it will you miss the most? 
I will miss the anticipation. I will miss waiting all offseason waiting so see how competitive we'll be and how much everyone else has improved. I'll miss spending all of my time at work preparing mentally (And even doing work sometimes) for the next week's racing. I figure I'll stay very involved in racing once I quit so really, that is the only aspect I will miss because the people and the competition will still always be there.
The SOS recently voted to adapt cockpit adjustable hydraulic wing sliders and you apparently refuse to run one- Why?
It's my belief that wing sliders, and any cockpit adjustables for that matter reward mediocrity. If your car doesn't leave the pits ready to win then you don't deserve to win. It also rewards teams with more horsepower and gives them an un-earned and completely unneccessary competitive advantage. If you have a low budget racer the one thing he could hope for was to set his car up better than yours and he or she might have a chance. Now, the low buck racer can hit the setup and the big budget guy can miss it but now he can make up for it with the slider which makes the low buck racer a sitting duck. I just think it's comical that I have guys who have WAY better equipment than I will ever have whining to me that they need sliders. It's not enough that they're bringing an uzi to a gun fight, but they actually can look at a guy like me with all of $10,000 in my whole "Program" and say they need sliders with a straight face.

One of the reasons the sliders are being implemented this year is because our drivers felt they were at a disadvantage to other groups when they came in. My first question is, why should that effect someone who plans to run the SOS exclusively and shows complete loyalty to our club? If they think that adding wing sliders evens things up too they are flat out wrong, the other groups allow adjustable everything...does that mean we should too? An adjustable wing slider is one thing but now you're opening a can of worms that includes adjustable torsion bars, sway bars and adjustable shocks. Have you seen the cost of a set of Penske's!?!?!?

It was also brought up that wing sliders make the racing more safe. Um, look at the Canadian Sprint Car Nationals. Ron Blair, Alain Bergeron, Justin Barger and Rick Wilson to name a few all took by far the scariest rides of the year at Ohsweken at the Nationals and I'm not even including the night before when the track was bumpy. All the adjustable everythings didn't help them one bit.

Pro-wing slider people also always try to say they want the wing sliders to help the new guy. That's a load of bull, the last thing a new guy needs to be worrying about is a wing slider and if you ask guys who run a sprint car for the first time most of the time they'll tell you they're so busy they don't even know it's there!

People also try to make the arguement that wing sliders put on a better show for the fans. When cars are hooked up it's harder to pass, it's easier for the front runners to get away and lastly, if you ran 10 races, 5 with sliders and 5 without I bet you the fans wouldn't even come close to being able to pick which rules were implemented for which races.

Lastly, the most telling thing about this whole situation is what the rest of the sprint car world is trying to do. Right now the WoO and the All Stars are going to a tire that is harder to hook up and they are looking for more ways such as the top wing to un-hook them even more. Practically every sprint car fan across North America is begging for these cars to be un-hooked and what are we doing here? We're going backwards.

In the end though it essentially comes down to this...guys need wing sliders and any other cockpit adjustables to make up for their own shortcomings both on and off the track.

A lot of people helped you out last year - care to name them and explain how they helped?
This is a question that's going to get me in trouble because I can name 100 people who helped us and I'll forget 50 others but here goes...We have to send a big thank you to Lloyd Moore for finding Dad when he was stranded on the way to Brighton, thank you to Willy Northcott for heading out and towing dad and the car to the track and home...along with Lloyd. Another big thank you to the Wests for lending us a motor for the last 3 events of the season. The Mahoney's, Tim Phillips, Bob Crawford and anyone else who we have stolen parts off of, John Watson for all his help, the Middlemisses for a lot of things. Garry Evans, Jim Davies, Kevin Job and Ken Swan for all their help after we wrecked at Humberstone. I should also mention that when we raced with the PSG at Freedom last year Rich Swarthout was very good to us (And was rewarded with a vicious flip that evening for his generosity). Yeah, there's so many more people who helped us in so many different ways and to everyone I've forgotten I apologize and thank you once again.
You study the sport and have strong opinions about it - What isn't being done, that should be done, by the powers that be within the sport?
I'm very happy about the future of 410 racing. Most people are down on it but I think the World of Outlaws are being run by some very smart people with the proper motivations and intentions. If 410's can be saved these are the guys who are going to do it. 

There are a couple of things that trouble me about the 360 world.

The first thing is in our area specifically. Right now we have the SOS, ESS, PSG and SOD all in our area. Each group has enough tracks to sustain themselves but it seems like that's not enough. I'm getting very sick and tired of groups actively and aggressively going after tracks, especially ones that make no geographical sense whatsoever. These groups need to look after their own backyard before they even think about going into other people's and the fact that they do have to go into other people's backyards should tell everyone something about that organization. It's to the point now that I will travel to New York or Michigan instead of racing at home when a group invades. I'm sure it's a protest that doesn't get noticed but it's all I can really do.

The other thing that bothers me is the trend in 360 groups of going towards ASCS heads only. There is absolutely no compelling reason for me spend about $2000 on ASCS heads when I can find decent heads for about $500 and put the ASCS gasket on them. People really need to realize that it's not the head that makes an ASCS legal motor cheap. IT'S THE GASKET!!! Look at the price of an ASCS headed motor versus the price of an ASCS legal motor. All things being equal in almost every instance the ASCS legal motor is cheaper than a motor with ASCS heads. Emmett Hahn doesn't profit nearly as much from that though so I guess it's not in his best interest and thusly, it's not in 360 sprint car racing's interest.

I've heard plenty of arguements for ASCS heads only, but certainly nothing strong enough to justify an additional $1500 when I'm already ASCS legal.  Also, under the current system, everyone gets to race, under and ASCS head only system only the people who can afford them get to race.

I could write a book on those two topics and many more, but I'll leave it at that.

One thing I know that winds you up, is when people say how good racing used to be and today is not as good - What do you say to that?
I could write an essay on this too but what it comes down to is this. Catalogue racing. Right now everyone is basically running the same engines, chassis and parts as everyone else. Most people are running brand new stuff. Even guys like me who don't have a big budget have been able to accumulate fairly decent equipment. What this has done is brought everybody closer together and made everybody more competitive. In some ways it sucks when you are a low buck guy racing people with what seem like limitless budgets but at the same time I'm able to buy that same equipment off them a few years down the road and be fairly competitive. In the past if a guy like Bob Trostle went out and built a car that was really trick he'd have a distinct advantage over the competition. Today that just doesn't exist and if someone does have an advantage it doesn't last long. That is the short answer to a long and complicated question.

Oh, and one more thing. I'm sick of hearing how much more brave drivers from other eras were. Go to Eldora and watch Joey Saldana, Tim Kaeding or Haud and try to come back and tell me with a straight face that they couldn't go toe to toe with the drivers of the past.

Last year was a terrible year for you with 0 top 10 finishes - where there ANY bright spots?
There actually was a few. We won our first two heats of the season and we led some laps. I think we could have won the opener but as usual we found a way to lose it.

There were two HUGE bright spots for me however. The first was the 2nd last race at Ohsweken. I had invited one of my best friends; Shawn Van Loon and his family out to see a race. I also had family in attendance. Unfortunately we landed in a tough heat. I appeared to be headed into the A Main through my heat when Adam West pulled a beautiful move on me on the last corner of the last lap to get the last transfer. We were devastated. The B Main was stacked, we had all kinds of people there and we knew we weren't getting through it. My dad even gave me the "Go out there, give it your best" speech, which in his language means "We're screwed". Anyway, we had the pole, they dropped the green and we went out and won by a straightaway. We always suck at Ohsweken so it was quite a shock to run so well even to us and to win in front of all those people meant a lot to us.

The second bright spot came late in the year after we blew our only motor at South Buxton. We assumed we were done but we got an e-mail from Adam West telling us that if we whipped over we could throw his back-up motor in the car. In about the span of 2 nights we went from being done to having a motor that was in some ways better than our previous motor. We didn't get to run it at the Labour Day Classic where we thought we'd be pretty tough but because of rain it was cancelled. We did put it in the show (Barely!) at the SOS Invitational and put up what I thought was a very strong performance at the Canadian Sprint Car Nationals given our equipment and the level of competition.

The Wests gave us our two biggest highlights of the year and we'll never be able to repay them...unless I win the lottery.

Why the number change from 93 to 29?
3 days before the Labour Day Classic my best friend's brother; Greg Van Loon was one of 3 people killed in a tragic car crash. Greg was a huge Kevin Harvick fan and as a tribute I wanted to run the #29 during the Labour Day Classic. Unfortunately it rained out so we ran the number during the SOS Invitational and the Canadian Sprint Car Nationals. Over time though the number has become more than a tribute to Greg to me. Every time I see that number I remember Greg and I realize that this may be the last time I am fortunate enough to get to strap into a sprint car so I better enjoy it and drive my ass off. For that reason I have decided to keep the #29. In no way, shape or form am I a Harvick fan, I can't stress that enough people!
You are a staunch supporter of the SOS - Do you feel that the SOS gets the respect it deserves by the fans, the tracks and the sprint car community in general.
Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. In terms of US press coverage we are by far the most respected and covered racing series of any kind in Canada. We also have had an incredible record in the National Sprint Car Hall of Fame 360 poll when it comes to the Rookie of the Year. It's also pretty cool that people in Florida have heard of the SOS and that I can go to a pavement supermodified race in Toledo, OH and have a person actually know who I am. So on a North American level and in the sprint car community I think we actually get quite a bit of respect, more than I ever thought we would get.

On a local level I sometimes question whether we do or not. The best example is a race that took place at Ohsweken in 2005. Adam West, Warren Mahoney and Les MacMillan went 3-wide for the lead with a couple of laps to go in an action packed feature before Adam won with a late pass. Not a word on the message boards. A couple of weeks later another group came in, brought 13 of their own cars but thanks to our support they had a 39 car field. People around here couldn't stop tripping over themselves complimenting that group and the show. That stuff bothers me, especially when 1 year later we bring 43 cars to the opener (41 were SOS cars) and once again it didn't really seem to get attention. That kind of double standard really bothers and frustrates me.

That being said, some nights I'm embarrassed to be a part of the SOS after some of the shows we put on. The last couple of years it has happened a lot less frequently but every now and then I wouldn't blame fans if they didn't come out. I can say however that every year we try to address this and that I think fans will see a marked improvement this year and beyond. If you look at our show 2 years ago versus now there's no comparing them.

Probably the biggest thing that bothers me though is the coverage we get in the media in Canada. Inside Track, Norris MacDonald and the Toronto Star and Tim Miller of the Hamilton Spectator have all been great to us. What drives me crazy though is that aside from the people I just mentioned most of the coverage of Canadian racing goes to CASCAR. I'm sorry, I just don't get it. How can you watch a sprint car flat foot turns 3 and 4 at Ohsweken and then watch those abominations "Fly" around a paved half-mile in just a shade under a decade (Sorry, 20 seconds, my bad) and call that exciting? Unfortunately aside from the Can-Am Midgets, the Alberta sprint car scene and us there just isn't much great oval track racing in Canada but to put CASCAR at the top of the heap in Canadian racing is an embarrassment. 

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