SOS Q&A with: Kevin Eckert

There can not be a person alive who has seen more short track races than Kevin Eckert - and has spent less money to do it. He has written a column for the late great Open Wheel Magazine, Speedway Scene and got Flat Out Magazine up and rolling. His Open Wheel Times website is known for an awesome collection of sprint car stats, as well as a “must read” column for sprint car fans. His pointed insights may rankle some feathers and some may take offence – but there is no denying his love and passion for the sport. We figured it might be nice if someone did the asking of him for a change. As usual he pulled no punches and did not spare the honesty or candor…

1. Tell us about Open Wheel Times and what a “cash cow” it has been for you

Since I was about 12 years old, I’d been keeping records of sprint car races. When I turned 18, I began writing a weekly column almost as an outlet for piles of accumulated information. Since that time, I’ve rationed it out in drips and drabs. One day, I thought it made no sense to be the only guy in the sport capable of answering obscure trivia questions. What if I made my archives available to anyone with a computer? That led to the Open Wheel Times, the only site for answers about past, present and future. I felt that if I provided an invaluable service, advertising revenue would follow. I never want to charge a subscription. And by necessity, anything that takes up all of a person’s time needs to make money. As yet (with some exceptions) that has not happened. However, I’ve made my bed and will make it pay or die trying.

2. Any idea of how many tracks and or races you have seen? – an “estimate” is fine

I’ve seen races on 458 tracks in 43 states and Australia . At my zenith, I caught 192 races in 1987. I’ve probably averaged about 100 races per year since 1974, putting my total number of races between 2000-2500.

3. You’ve followed the sport hardcore since the ‘70’s – what were the truly best years for the sport (3 year window)

Impossible to say, but I believe 1979-1980-1981. The World of Outlaws were new, gaining steam and still racing with and without wings; big wings had not ruined surfaces yet; All Stars spawned a traveling alternative; Pennsylvania was still big blocks with little wings; USAC still harbored a few Indy 500 hopefuls; and weekly sprint racing was raging in big cities like Dallas and Phoenix.

4. What is you favorite off-track racing story (that we can print) – it does not have to “star” you
Having just spent quality Chili Bowl time with Kevin Olson, I’ll share a K.O classic. A.J Foyt had just won his fourth Indy 500 and his car was on display at some swanky hotel behind a velvet rope. Why Olson was there has never been determined. Kevin’s buddy was on the lobby phone when he heard a commotion and instantly knew the source. K.O had crawled into A.J’s seat and was making motor noises as he worked the wheel back and forth. Security soon pulled him out and dragged him away as Olson screamed, “Its okay! A.J and I are friends! In fact, son of a bitch owes me twenty bucks!”
5. Last spring when Eldora was having issues with the new surface – everybody seemed to want to harken back to “The Good Old Days of Earl’s surface Prep” – you were one of the few, back in the day – that apparently didn’t think Earl was a surface prep god - how were you rewarded for you honesty?
With a couple slaps in the head. Earl Baltes was a great promoter - perhaps the greatest true promoter ever – and an intensely proud and occasionally violent man. He controlled the press through sheer intimidation and because he built the single greatest arena ever, they bowed at his feet. I of course, refused. I treated his track like any other: good races = good reviews, bad races = bad reviews. For this, I was banned in 1986 and not fully reinstated until 2006 after a few ripped shirts and bloody noses.
6. Right now 360 racing seems strong but we all fear out of control costs – What are your thoughts regarding both 360 & 410 racing’s future
The 410 class is definitely in trouble. The need to own what The Outlaws own has pushed the class beyond the financial range of all but a few weekly promoters. The basic theme in all of auto racing is that teams need to think that they have a chance to win. Now, if Steve Kinser chose to be SOS champion, the rest of SOS would stand little chance. But as long as 360 purses stay low enough to draw no interest from the elite, parity has a chance. As soon as Little Rock pays $15,000 to win, vacationing outlaws show up and take it. As a historian, I wonder if the whole situation is cyclical. If the World of Outlaws went to 360s, the top teams would still spend ridiculous amounts, make those motors cost-prohibitive and cause a surge in 410s as the new working man’s motor.
7. You’ve written about losing young drivers to the black hole of the “NASCAR Star Maker Machine” – who are the casualties? – and who would be the saddest story? – both in terms of what they have missed and the sport as well
Few hear of those who left short track stardom for the south and stumbled. In this age when America is dying for a winning female, Erin Crocker’s story is a new twist. A good (not great) girl racer gets a break, lands in bed with the boss, and now goes to the end of the line. Stevie Reeves was a better racer than Crocker but was nothing better than a spotter down there. Andy Michner had a better pavement touch than Reeves, and flamed out too. But the saddest story was Ricky Shelton, who moved from California to Indiana (with an eye on NASCAR) and became the latest Keith Kunz phenom until he broke his neck. While healing, Shelton drank and drugged his way out of a job and into jail. That is far more tragic than Erin Crocker dating a millionaire.
8. What is your favorite dirt track – past or present – and why?
When I was a kid, the Reading Fairgrounds was my window on the world. As I got older and began to travel, I realized that Reading was just a flat old half-mile designed for horses. What made the place great was a surface that stayed heavier for day races than night races are today. The opposite of a flat half is a banked quarter, and these became my favorites. When I saw the Riverside Speedway gumbo in West Memphis , it seemed the best of both worlds: small, banked, sticky. But the more one visits a cherished place, the greater the risk of losing its initial appeal. That is why Tri-State Speedway in Haubstadt , Indiana has become my favorite track because no matter how many times I visit, it almost never disappoints.
9. What started your love affair with sprint car racing ?
Kenny Weld. I was ten years old and thought enormous coupes and coaches were our greatest gifts. Reading ’s Lindy Vicari built Penn National in ’71. We did not get there until ’73 because we lived in New Jersey . By the time we did, sprint cars were the weekly attraction. I wanted to see the “Flyin’ Hippie” Jan Opperman. Weld blew everyone away. And that winter, he built the coolest modified that I had ever seen: a red-white-and-blue Weikert Livestock Gremlin that was too different, too streamlined and unique for my little mind to comprehend. It won almost immediately. I investigated this Kenny Weld and his top career highlight was always listed as four-time Knoxville Nationals winner. From that day, I wanted to visit Knoxville . That summer of ‘74, we went to see Opperman and Weld race sprint cars at East Windsor . Weld won again. At the end of that season, Reading closed with three sprint/modified doubleheaders. Weld won all three sprint races. He won the first five sprint races I ever saw. But honestly, none of those races were better than watching Brightbill, Chamberlain and Tobias battle from nine rows deep. Not until 1975 when I saw an awesome USAC race won by Lee Osborne over George Snider and Joe Saldana that my wingless curiosity peaked. Pancho Carter and Sheldon Kinser ran around my ol’ fairgrounds more sideways than I had ever seen. I was also an autograph hound and upon reaching a USAC pit and asking where the driver was, I was told that he was on his way home to Indianapolis . It was then that I realized Reading was just another date to a traveling professional. Subconsciously, I began plotting my western exodus early.
10. You columns often allude to your love of music- who are your favorite Canadian performers?
Neil Young and Leonard Cohen are two the greatest writers ever born. As a head-bangin’ teen, I was partial to Triumph and April Wine. A buddy loaned the Universal Juveniles album by Max Webster and I loved them. I’ve been a Kim Mitchell fan since that day. There was a band called Coney Hatch that I liked back then. I liked Moe Berg’s power pop band called Pursuit of Happiness. As I leaned more toward the blues, I found Jeff Healey and Sass Jordan. But as someone who has seen Rush as many as four times on a single tour, Neil Peart does the only drum solo that does not send me on a piss break.
 
11. When are we going to see you in Canada ?
Just as soon as I can find a safe place for my stash.
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